the australian prime minister, john howard, wrote in the "new york times," fascinating piece about -- >> rose: what he did. >> he was considered pretty far right conservative, but he brought in really draconian gun control, and as he pointed out,ain massacres per the port arthur massacre which was a tipping point in the previous 10 or 12 years, i think it was. and since 1996 not a single one. and in britain a very similar story. >> rose: does britain, does australia have the power of an nra lobby like we do here? >> no, absolutely not. >> rose: is that the critical difference. >> critical difference, but also the gun culture here is completely different. you know, i grew up in a small village in the south of england where nobody had a gun, other than a farmer who would use it for hunting or shooting or people going to a target range. they were just unheard of for people to actually is ray gun at home for self-protection. americans have always believed since gaining independence that you need to have a firearm at home to protect yourself and your family, and the vast majority of americ